Will This Be The Trigger for Another Civil War?

By now, you’ve probably heard about the protests and conflict in Charlottesville, Virginia. Without rehashing all of the details, it’s relevant to know that many people view it as a conflict between Caucasians / political conservatives and non-Caucasians / political liberals. Whether these lines of demarcation are accurate, people on both sides of that conflict are using these perspectives to justify the agendas which they were already pushing.

As an example of these agendas, the head of a group called the League of the South, Michael Hill, posted on their Facebook group last month (July 2017) about their vision for a separate country based upon their view of Southern heritage and “white Christian” viewpoints. Jay Reeves of the Associated Press wrote about Hill’s post,

[The Facebook post] began, “Fight or die white man” and went on to say Southern nationalists seek “nothing less than the complete reconquest and restoration of our patrimony – the whole, entire South.”

“And that means the South will once again be in name and in actuality White Man’s Land. A place where we and our progeny can enjoy Christian liberty and the fruits of our own labor, unhindered by parasitical ‘out groups,'” said Hill’s message, posted on the group’s Facebook page a day after a rally in support of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee in Charlottesville, Virginia.

The group’s website says it is “waging a war to win the minds and hearts of the Southern people[.]”

But, it’s not just Southern nationalists and white supremacists who want to secede from the Union. Left leaning groups, some environmentalist, some concerned about racial equality, some just hating specific candidates, have started calling for the secession of California from the Union since the election of Donald Trump to the Presidency. Reeves continues,

A group that wants California to secede from the United States is based mainly on liberals wanting to exit the United States because of President Donald Trump’s election. They are collecting signatures to place a secession ballot initiative on the 2018 ballot.

The initiative would form a commission to recommend avenues for California to pursue its independence and delete part of the state constitution that says it’s an inseparable part of the United States. The “Calexit” initiative also would instruct the governor and congressional delegation to negotiate more autonomy for California.

The question that concerns us here isn’t whether either side on any of these questions is correct. Our question is how serious and how violent these different groups are willing or even intend to be. If any of these groups get violent enough and large enough in numbers, we could conceivably see a divided United States, and we know what happened the last time this occurred: large numbers of Americans died.

So, with this in mind, you have another reason to prepare and to be self-sufficient because disaster could happen at any time and may even be caused by your fellow man.

 
 

  • GRAMPA

    In my opinion which as an average citizen seems to count for nothing when leveled against government and their patient but unstoppable force determined to change our constitution. The desire for a group of people yet unnamed and their desire to control America and the world. the goal is having subjects and not citizens.because the process started the same day our constitution was signed the process has suffered a continuous change and evolution. many ways have now been tried. The most severe being our civil war with its now popular claim that it was to free the slaves. a reason far from the truth. while it was among the reasons it wasn’t the main reason and to my objection should have been taught in school. curing such ignorance would alleviate the actions in removal of the civil war monuments. With governments creation of so many special groups of privileged people who feel that they should somehow be paid for others suffering. government needs public action that is strong enough to act with the purpose of defending the peace. with these actions they can pass laws unopposed by the citizen. each law removes a small portion of your freedom. as the new generations arive they see these laws as normal and accept ever more laws passed that “protect” so with each generation our rights and freedoms diminish and are accepted as the new normal because they have never experienced what real freedoms are. to pas laws government has found it much easier when they have the citizens support and are calling for action. Now the problems are created the use of peoplewho in their ignorence are told that others are responsable for their problems. at times they are but not the way government indicates. they are told they are oppressed and that the police are there to keep them down and stop them for n reason to harass them. so they riot with every perceived violation of their rights. rights government has told them they have. with each problem government offers solution that will protect but also remove yet another small freedom. at seventy five I am old enough to see and remember what freedoms we had when I was young I have the perspective that I can compare what we have today to yesterday. America has come so far down the road to slavery. not the type where one man is owned by another but the type where we are now owned by government. it will require another war and we dont have enough men of the moral superiority to stand and deliver a government that will protect freedom and deliver the protection of our God given rights. As I stand I am too old and failing to where while I may deliver the context of a government I haven’t the knowledge that will set it down in a form understood and fair to all men. who among you will stand together to deliver a constitution that can deal with a modern age and protect the rights of the people and form a nation that can protect? I have found few in my lifetime. most are corrupt from power and would seek to secure it for themselves. I haven’t the answer. Has anyone?
    Grampa

    • CDans

      It will take hard love to “FIX” this issue. Our creator God himself once destroyed all man kind for their corruption and sin, can sinful man see the path that they follow ? This is why God will have to totally destroy man kind once more and usher in His Son Jesus Christ to finally defeat evil . I never believed that I would see the moral decay in my life time. Today’s kids call us old timers and old fashion when we tell our stories of how we were disciplined and most of us went to church. We prayed in school, said the allegiance to our flag and respected our elders. We didn’t smart mouth older folks nor police officers when they stopped us for any reason. We had police officers, not law enforcement . We honored ” IN GOD WE TRUST” We worked for what we wanted, not being on welfare or disability expecting our fellow man to support us. God’s word said, “if you don’t work you don’t eat” Simple acts to walk out. Man kind will self destruct when given to his own ways. God put His laws in force to protect us, not to lead us to destruction. When God is removed, man is doomed and will destroy himself. Just look at the countries that have done so. No rocket science needed here.
      We can only pray that God will deliver us from all evil and keep us until He returns.

      • peacefulwhitesupremist

        I see our time as another destruction of Babylon event.
        Enjoy the ride, folks.

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        So “God” put together 10 commandments of which the first four would make you a criminal for not following them and yet the “damaged party” cannot claim a damage in a court of law. Makes sense to me. Sort of like it is now. Where the judge claims the “law” is damaged by an act of say, smoking an herb. I ask “God” for this… PLEASE SAVE ME FROM THOSE WHO CLAIM TO FOLLOW YOU!

    • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

      Try shift enter…

      Shift enter allows spaces.

      • GRAMPA

        with each passing day I learn something new. now that my mind is starting on its downward path I struggle to keep my messages understandable. my biggest obstacle is the drugs I must take to keep the pain at a level that allowes both a sane dialog and a level of pain so I can sit and type. another is what i call my Phatt phinger syndrome that occurs as I type and continue to hit the wrong keys. I am fortunate to have people like yourself that watches over my rants and offer help it is much rarer to find one that offers real critisum without the many creative names they feel fit my condition. for this type of critisum they feel that these names justify their argument. people have no idea the difficulty I have with a mind muddled with drugs I must have to kill a back pain that will not stop.well enough of my whine my intent was to thank you for your civil response because I dont get many.=========Grampa

  • lia watson

    Please go, California, and don’t let the door hit you on your way to being totally bankrupt and overrun by illegals…have at it!

    • Bullwinkle

      One has to wonder; if they were to secede, how long would it be before they come crawling back expecting the rest of the states to bail them out.

      • Margie Nicely

        Not very long! I hope they do secede, then we can all point the finger and say WE TOLD YOU ! We don’t need the likes of them harassing us ! Maybe all the liberals will move to California and take the illegals with them! You got to love it!

      • Terry Butts

        Judging by the politicians running the place they probably think they would still get all the GRANT and other federal money and benefits while being able to ignore federal law and the US constitution.

    • Sam

      California is part of this country. It just needs to be cleaned out of both illegals and liberals.

  • dltaylor51

    Civil War?? One half has 8 billion bullets and 100 million guns and the other half cant even figure out what bathroom to use,some civil war that will be.

    • Bullwinkle

      Don’t make the mistake of thinking these leftists are unarmed.

      • dltaylor51

        I’m sure some are armed but how many are hunters,stalkers and precision shooters? Can they switch between crossbow,long bow and compound bow with any degree of proficiency?Have they ever cut a throat? Being well armed does not automatically make a man a rifleman.

        • nobuttkissr

          But it sure doesn’t hurt!

      • Robert Early

        i’m just one simple conservative man; but I own six powerful weapons and over 10,000 rounds of 30 caliber ammo. There are millions of us prepared for the worse. Certainiy, some liberals are armed; but I doubt that they are as well-prepared and equiped as we are. Me and millions of my friends are Veterans. In short, we are trained and exoert killers. If Civil War actually comes, Liberals will quickly learn what “shock and awe” is really about. In a war environment, who are the.police and millitary going to stand with? Trump or Hillary. It will be a one-day war.

        • Munge

          Right on brother and thanks for your service.

        • American Patriot

          I’m disappointed….that’s all you have, really? Must be a Rookie 🙂

      • James Killian

        A Liberal armed! LoL

        • Munge

          Armed with bullshit and safe spaces.

        • Terry Butts

          Remember several liberals have been outed as being armed they have nothing against themselves or their body guards being armed they just want all those they wish to oppress unarmed.

          It has been irrefutably proven time and again that NO GUN LAW PAST, PRESENT, OR FUTURE will disarm criminals or end crime yet they still push them spouting the same propaganda that it will. The only logical conclusion is either they have a mental deficiency or they need people UNARMED so they can no longer protect themselves from oppression and tyranny in the manner that was intended by the second amendment.

      • Munge

        I don’t think he was implying that just saying we on ther right have much much more guns than those on the left.

      • mustangsallyann

        Most just don’t have them legally so there’s no way to know what those true #s are.

    • Dennis Anderson

      They do knows what a food stamp is and how to make duh babies!!

    • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

      8 billion? More like 800 billion.

      • dltaylor51

        counting rim fire and center fire I have about 125,000 and I’m a light weight compared to some of the other gun guys I know so you could be right.

    • metheoldsarge

      Don’t be so sure that there aren’t many liberal gun owners. There are a lot of liberal gun owners and hunters. I see proof of that in my area every hunting season. They come from all over to shoot Bambi, Thumper and Daffy or Donald Duck. There are even a few Elmer Fudds looking for Bugs Bunny. Last hunting season, many of them had various union membership decals on their pickup trucks and cars right next to their Hillary campaign stickers. It would almost be comical If it wasn’t so pathetic.

    • American Patriot

      You are right…we don’t need ammo, all we have to do is hurt their feelings!

  • Bill

    In all reality there will not be a civil war, but a continuation of antifa until they get nasty and most likely our city’s will turn into infernos as both unrest and economic havoc arrive at the same time. There is a limit on how and why the antifa thugs will be allowed to keep up with their bs. If any other group kept this crap up they would be arrested. They are threatening, bullying and intimidating people and they violate the first amendment, but nothing is done by our liberal Mayors and governors. As I said above this will not be a civil war it will end up being a terrorist war and most people will not recognize the terrorist. Eventually it will be shoot and ask questions later if ever.

    • Holy Joe

      Any activst street group bedecked in black and wearing face masks, should be immediately arrested and sentenced to five years hard labor. They are without a doubt political agitators determined to subvert the Government of the U.S.A. and render it it to complete anarchy and communistic control. Antifa and BLA are racist-terrorist organizations working at the behest of Obama & Soros Groups.

      • Carl Powers

        I agree with this totally.

      • You Just Cannot Maker this Stu

        Why should my tax money pay room and board for these terrorist, shoot and kill, that way they will never breed again.

      • Mark Are Reynolds Ⓥ

        Gee, I don’t think I want to live in a country you run. Wearing face masks harms WHO? People should only be arrested if they are robbing, raping, stealing or destroying someones property. There needs to be VICTIM in my perfect world. Thought crimes and words spoken don’t count.

        • Taz

          Guess what Snowflake? The world isn’t perfect. Spoken words do count; the law trumps your feelings.

        • Munge

          You must be one of those assholes. Wearing masks is hiding who you are in hopes of not being recognized so your people hope they won’t be identified then arrested. You people are nothing but cowards.

        • Holy Joe

          Criminals hide behind face masks to avoid identification, if they were doing something legal there would be no need for a mask ! Ergo face mask = criminal intent.

      • freebirdlj

        These groups should be shot, not arrested. It is much cheaper. Thug lives don’t matter.

      • Taz

        Technically they are mercenaries. Go to this link to get the best take on them and their actions I have ever read.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6y71mv/if_you_are_paid_2500_an_hour_to_show_up_to_a/

    • Munge

      Antifa has been declared a domestic terrorist group and are starting to get arrested more and more they won’t be around much longer. And those who are will start getting their asses kicked or shot. They’re not being tolerated more and more. When the democrats are starting to come out against them which is happening more often over the last two weeks, very soon they’ll be gone.

  • donna

    Maybe we should quit giving federal tax monies to California and see if they still want to be independant – people and businesses are leaving California due to their high taxes and without their share of federal support and grants the taxes will go higher and higher and more people and businesses will leave which will increase the taxes for the ones who stay.

    • Terry Butts

      Not only are the businesses leaving due to high taxes but there are a lot of STATE regulations and restrictions they imposed especially recently that made many of those businesses unable to stay even if they wanted. After all if they make something they can only sell for less than a dollar apiece and complying with California dictates cost them 100 dollars to make each one why would they stay.

  • peacefulwhitesupremist

    owning guns don’t make you a gunfighter

    • Leprekhan

      No, but owning a gun surely makes it easier IN a gunfight…

      • peacefulwhitesupremist

        true, and sure seems like combat is almost here in the USA.

  • Marty

    Haven been born and raised in So Cal, my view is that the best thing that can happen to the US, is for Kalifornia to leave the US. As soon as I retired, I moved out, and it’s the best move I’ve ever done. While growing up in So Cal, it was a wonderful place to be. Now, it is unrecognizable. The Marxist folks have taken over and I can’t even think of raising my daughter in such filth. I say good riddance.

  • will_brian77

    We can’t even get our so called “conservative” politicians to call out black lives matter and antifa for what they are. They waste no time calling white folks terrorist that are protesting against tearing down statues that have been up for a hundred years.

  • FreeYourMindinSC

    All theater. But one thing is clear: powerful people (Soros types) want militant left & militant right to fight each other, so that government will have to crack down, resulting in a widening of the police state & moving ever further from the Constitution.

    A destroyed U.S. will accomplish one thing: pave the way for those standing back of the Deep State, the globalists ensconced in central banks & leviathan banking corporations who have been planning a technocratic, corporation-controlled world state for longer than anyone reading this has been alive. If the Trump administration is taken down, everyone reading this will have a chance to see it.

  • metheoldsarge

    I have been reading a lot of comments about a civil way as if many actually want it to happen. If it comes to a civil war, the only winners will be our enemies. A civil war will grind our factories (or what is left of them) to a halt so we will not be able to replace our supplies. Food, fuel, ammunition, water and power will become very scarce very quick. It will be a come as you are war. What we have on hand at the start is all we will have. It will not be restricted to the streets and back alleys of the inner cities. The fighting will quickly move out to the suburbs and the rural areas. They will not knock oh doors and ask. They will kick down doors and take.

    The bulk of our Armed Forces are serving overseas and will most likely be stranded. Don’t count on help from our so called allies. We could be vulnerable to invasion and the United Nations would, most likely, be pouring fuel on that fire. It will be a bloodbath.

    I am just pointing out that people should stop and think. The attitude seems to be an eagerness to lock and load. It reminds me of the attitude of the old South in the early 1860s. For them it was also come as you are. No one was thinking about how they would be supplied. They also didn’t consider that the North had more railroads, factories, ship yards and coal mines. The North also had a fleet that was able to blockade the Southern ports and cut off their supply lines.

    We Americans have been too complacent. This has been in the works long before Obama, Clinton or Trump were even born. This is what Khrushchev was talking about when he said that they will defeat us from within. History is being erased, forgotten or ignored, so unless we wake up we will be condemned to repeat it.

    All I am saying is stop and think instead of blindly jumping into it with both feet. I only hope that cooler heads will prevail in the months to come and trouble can be avoided. Wake up America. If Joseph McCarthy was still alive he would be saying “I TOLD YOU SO!”

  • Patriot41

    If our laws were enforced in this nation, none of these hate groups would be able to overthrow our government or force States to secede from the Union of States.

    If government criminals were held accountable for their actions, there would be no discord or desire to disrupt our nation.

    If political correctness was prosecuted as a violation of our First Amendment Rights of Free Speech, the silent majority would speak up and end this madness!

  • laulau

    California belongs to the government. If they want to be alone, then move to another ocuntry.

  • headhunter

    I am great full that although reports said both side at Charlottesville, VA were carrying handguns neither side chose to employ them. If we are to tear this nation apart, we had best think long and hard.

  • DrSique

    Seems like the leftist agenda of dividing the country is working pretty well BUT, they just may live long enough to regret it. Sixty three MILLION fed up Americans voted for Donald Trump in part because they are done with Washington corruption. Do the liberals and power whores truly believe that all those patriots will simply go away when the SHTF. Extremely doubtful.

    • Munge

      This patriotic veteran won’t run and hide I can tell you that much. I took an oath to defend the constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic and my oath like most veterans has no expiration.

  • Donald Baker

    Real Americans need to be armed to the teeth and be prepared to send these left wing communist traitor straight to hell if they attack. I am beginning to wonder if a civil war is all that can save this nation

    • peacefulwhitesupremist

      I stick with what works

  • Isaac Shelby Baker

    We say “No More”. Let the cards fall where they may from that statement.

  • Munge

    California is so broke they couldn’t make it without the rest of the country. Their idiot governor just asked for financial help from President Trump a few months ago. I say fuckem let them go if that’s what they want it’ll save the rest of the country from having to bail them out.

  • Ancient Patriot

    We should all Hang Together or we will all Hang Separately. I think it was Ben Franklyn said that. Today, it is more true than ever. The left/right split is only aiding and abetting those who would see our nation fall. Unfortunately, as many believe, it was the action of the past president that placed us on this path of self destruction. The doubling the national debt, mangling the medical delivery system, encouraging adverse forces in the middle east, all actions under his administration have been detrimental to the viability of our REPUBLIC.He left the new administration monumental problems.

  • Gen11American

    Since Whites founded this country, carved a civilized nation out of savage wilderness, wrote the Declaration of Independence, fought the eight-year Revolutionary War against the largest, strongest standing army in the world at that time, wrote the US Constitution, lost 645,000 soldiers during the Civil War to decide the issue of slavery, and fought tyrannies in two world wars, White Americans HAVE EVERY RIGHT to remain the majority in the United States! Any attempts by the Democrats to grant amnesties to illegals and to continue flooding in Third World Socialist peasants to displace generational White Americans as the ruling majority will assuredly result in a Second Civil War because if it isn’t fought, the US will become either a Socialist hellhole or an Islamic Caliphate instead of continuing to be a Constitutional Republic!

  • Cleavis Nowell

    Muslim mosques double as terrorist armories and any civil war would be Americanists vs BLM/Muslim Brotherhood aka CAIR.