Should This Be Your Firearm Choice In A Disaster Situation?

If you’re serious about your safety in a survival situation, then you have to consider weapons, and possibly the first weapon to consider is a firearm. But, with so many firearm choices out there, which one should you start with?

Sure, you could consider buying a rifle or a shotgun, and both of those choices can be excellent for a variety of scenarios. But what you can’t easily do with either a rifle or a shotgun is carry concealed which, in a SHTF situation, you may want to really consider. Why? Because you don’t want to draw attention to yourself. You don’t want people to either steal your firearm or to consider you a threat and attack you.

So, you may want to narrow your choices down to a pistol. In this case, you may want to focus on a pistol that is inexpensive (because you have other things that you want your funds going towards, like food!) and for which you can easily get ammunition, ideally inexpensively. This narrows down the field a bit more.

The solution? A writer going by the name of Travis P suggests two different options, both of them Eastern European pistols. They are the TT-33 and the CZ 52. Travis P writes,

So how do we combine affordable, reliable, and powerful? The answer is similar to the Mosin Nagant: surplus Eastern European weapons. They aren’t pretty, but they do work. In essence, they are the epitome of affordable and reliable sidearms. Moreover, you can buy the ammo cheaply in bulk off the Internet or at most gun shops. The two weapons I’m talking about are the TT-33 and the CZ 52. Each of these handguns was built to be chambered in the 7.62 x 25mm, which is also known as the 7.62 Tokarev.

The cartridge was produced in Russia in the early 1930s for uses in a multitude of different weapons. They include the sub-machine guns PPD-40, PPSH-41, PP-19 Bizon, and of course the handguns TT-33 and CZ-52. This round is lightweight and has an incredibly fast velocity. A hot load with an 85-grain FMJ round can reach speeds of over 1600 feet per second, while an average load is around 1220 feet per second.  The round is renowned for piercing soft body armor, military issue helmets, and it offers excellent penetration against obstacles. This round is light and small but transfers a lot of energy—360 foot-pounds of it from a standard load. Not bad at all.

Travis P also notes that you can easily convert these pistols to shoot 9mm ammunition with simply the change of a barrel. That makes getting ammunition that much easier in a SHTF situation because 9mm is one of the more common types out there.

So, while you could choose other firearms, you may want to pause for a moment and consider the TT-33 and the CZ 52. With so many advantages, they may be just what you’re looking for.

 
 

  • PBinLosAngeles

    It all comes down to shot placement. Once half-kidding I asked my late cousin – Bob Munden – what his “survival weapon” of choice would be and he promptly answered:
    “Now, you have to remember, I could shoot cha in the eye – every time – from 200 – 300 yards. Couple that with the fact, I could carry a combined 2,000 rounds of .22 long rifle in the four pockets of my Levi’s alone. Its a no brainer – a Ruger 10-22.”

    • Dave

      I could shoot cha in the eye – every time – from 200 – 300 yards. Sure, if the Easter bunny was spotting the target the tooth fairy calculating wind drift. Or ifhe thinks is pecker is a yard stick.

      • PBinLosAngeles

        Clearly, you don’t know who my cousin was. I witnessed him – on many
        occasions – pop 12″ balloons at 100 yards with a 2″ barreled, .38
        Special, iron sights. Check out
        Bob Munden — “Impossible” 200 Yard Shot on YouTube.

        And
        that’s the point I was presenting – Bob COULD shoot cha in the eye with
        a 10/22 every time, @ 200- 300 yards; he was beyond “exceptional” in
        this regard.
        Bob was drawing on the axiom that the average
        person – like me – couldn’t hope to do that consistently, and thereby
        their “survival weapon” of choice should be made accordingly. As
        for up close and personal, factory-made available calibers for personal
        protection, Bob always recommended .44 Special as its relative lower
        velocity and high impact energy foot-pounds almost guarantees
        one-shot-stops. Personally, I’m just fine with the M1 Super 90 and my Seecamp .32, which BTW maintains the same one-shot-stop percentage(s) as .38 Special withing 8 feet….

        • Dave

          I was not referring to your cousin’s shooting skills but to the accuracy of a 10-22 at 300 yards. If you clamped the gun in a machine rest it might get 5 shots in 3″ at that range but i would bet against it happening. A human eye is less than 1″ in diameter. I have seen some fantastic shots made. I used to shoot with a man wh0 won the 1000 yard match at Camp Perry one year but a 1: group at 300 yards “every time” I do
          t think so & certainly not with a 22 rimfire..
          M choice if I expected to be in a gunfight would be my Para-ord Warthog but I carry a Sig Sauer P938 because it is smaller & lighter.

          • PBinLosAngeles

            With all due respect – and I mean that sincerely – check out
            Bob Munden — “Impossible” 200 Yard Shot on YouTube.

          • Dave

            With all due respect & not saying Bob may not be the best shot that ever lived, I will bet you $1000 he cannot put 5 consecutive shots in a target the size of a human eye with a 10-22 at 300 yards.

    • http://www.goredevelopment.net/ Charles T. Gore

      Don’t thinking they are talking but less than 5 to 10 feet not 100 or 200 yards but nasty assholes in your face.?

  • DevilDog01

    Really, all the weapons you could choose from and you chose those? For me it would be either my Winchester Model 290 .22, or my 12 gauge pump shotgun. With either I can defend myself or get meat. Good luck with your choices on getting meat.

  • http://www.goredevelopment.net/ Charles T. Gore

    The best weapon is the attacker does not see and is available in a New York second.
    I can carry a Baby Browning 25 ACP in my shirt pocket or in the right rear pocket of my Wrangler’s but its only good close up but with one in the chamber and 5 in the magazine but close up it will do the job for one attacker..
    My Glock 23 40 S&W is a cannon with hollow points for home defense.
    The question was in a disaster situation is three assholes are kicking your front door down my Remington 870 with 7 in the tube 12 ga 00 buck would get the job done.

    • PBinLosAngeles

      Nice thread. Personally – and I have a Baretta .25 as well – in THIS nutzoid part of the world, pocketed, I’m a Seecamp .32 ACP man, with Benelli M1 Super 90, Single aught buck, 7+1.
      Eight rounds in under 2 seconds is essentially, one man artillery! And add high-brass or magnum loads? Its blood, thunder, and hammer of the gods…..Ha!
      Peace

      • http://www.goredevelopment.net/ Charles T. Gore

        I grew up in Newport Beach, lived there then Dana Point, Naples (Long Beach) then moved to Grass Valley in the Sierra Foothills 3000′ elevation 65 miles north of Sacramento. LA was crazy in the 80’s as did a lot of general contracting there.
        Moved to Grass Valley 22 years ago. All the bay area freeze dried hippies started moving here about 12 years and hate my Trump MAGA hate and my F-350 King Ranch and my Excursion both 6.0 diesels. TFD for them.